PASAT Trials
PASAT Trials
It would be useful to be be able to vary the number of trials. Typically in jumps of 10 e.g. 20,30,40.
Whereas I found with the original PASAT 40 trials at times too much, I now find, at times, 20 too little. It is important to keep the practice intense and effortful.
A great site and thank you for all the work you have done here.
Whereas I found with the original PASAT 40 trials at times too much, I now find, at times, 20 too little. It is important to keep the practice intense and effortful.
A great site and thank you for all the work you have done here.
onetaste | 4 years ago
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Sorry about that -- the lowering to 20 was actually a mistake, and has been brought back to 40. As for varying trials, this has been brought up before, and I agree that it could help maintain intensity, but I'm not yet sure how best to go about doing this. I'll keep it in mind though.
cognitivefun | 4 years ago
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cevapcici | 4 years ago
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It's definitely possible, but probably less effective as a memory test. After a bit of practice, the PASAT becomes purely a memory task, since there are a relatively small number of answers (on PASAT 2, for example, it ranges from 2 to 18, which is only 17 things to remember to completely master the task) you end up memorizing the sums of groups of numbers.
For multiplication, there are far too many numbers to memorize (for most people), so the stress is placed on calculation, which may be what you are interested in, but multiplication is basically complex addition. Hence, one way to train multiplication would be to increase your digit span and addition speed. As a test design though, I'm not sure how well memory and multiplication would work.
That said, there is a serial subtraction test used in the MMSE (mini mental state examination), but it is used to test patients with dementia, so I'd rather not post one here :)
For multiplication, there are far too many numbers to memorize (for most people), so the stress is placed on calculation, which may be what you are interested in, but multiplication is basically complex addition. Hence, one way to train multiplication would be to increase your digit span and addition speed. As a test design though, I'm not sure how well memory and multiplication would work.
That said, there is a serial subtraction test used in the MMSE (mini mental state examination), but it is used to test patients with dementia, so I'd rather not post one here :)
cognitivefun | 4 years ago
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cevapcici | 4 years ago
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I'm trying to get my mind to parallel process TU x U eg. 42 x 3 = 40 x 3 + 2 x 3, with the multiplications being done simultaneously and largely subconsciously.
cevapcici | 4 years ago
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You mean so you can think about two things as once? That's cool. I heard somewhere that most kids can do that, but, like with so many other things (synesthesia, eiditic meemory, etc.) we lose the ability as we grow older. That ability would be extremely useful.
LaGrange123 | 4 years ago
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Actually I read a paper recently that described successfully training subjects to parallel process tasks - can't remember what it was; will search for it again.
cevapcici | 4 years ago
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orcad | 4 years ago
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cevapcici | 4 years ago
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Csafaii | 4 years ago
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A multiplication PASAT would be simply amazing!Im finding that after much work with the PASAT,I'm beginning to calculate a great deal better.But,if you want to keep it strictly addition to maintain the focus on working memory,I can see why you wouldn't add such a thing.
Csafaii | 4 years ago
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Looks very interesting - I shall attempt to follow the training.
Have you done this yourself, Orcad?
Have you done this yourself, Orcad?
cevapcici | 4 years ago
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