9 days of dual n-back,,,brain feels slow and fuzzy,,etc.
Hi i have trained for 9 days with few off days
and i must say that my brain feels slower and confused,,even some anxioty,,
i have tryed to use some brain audios in the morning to get my brain activated,,
but not mutch help,,,
where is the clarity and positive sides..
same happens with only brain audios...
its like if i try train my brain it wount like it,,,by the way suck on the dual 3-back
and i must say that my brain feels slower and confused,,even some anxioty,,
i have tryed to use some brain audios in the morning to get my brain activated,,
but not mutch help,,,
where is the clarity and positive sides..
same happens with only brain audios...
its like if i try train my brain it wount like it,,,by the way suck on the dual 3-back
Trainee | 6 months ago
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The mental fatigue/burnout that you're experiencing is for the most part normal. After a good rest you should start to see some improvement. In my case I suspect that I've been over training for the last 2 months so I've cut the training back to about 3 days per week (vs 5-6 days per wk) and the gains are slowly starting to creep in (reading span has increased slightly from 6.5 to 7 and I've gotten a little better at the simultaneous spatial memory updating task). Train hard but make sure you're getting adequate rest and nutrition. Good luck :)
moeman | 6 months ago
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Wow just got burned on reading span 8 got the 1st trial but misspelled words on the 2nd and 3rd trials. I'm pissed but at the same time glad that I've improved a little. I hope that it's a genuine improvement instead of a practice effect (I try to keep at least a 3 week gap between span tests).
Whats the record on RST anyway?
Whats the record on RST anyway?
moeman | 6 months ago
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cevapcici | 6 months ago
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moeman | 6 months ago
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Your score isn't even bold. Are you sure you really want to call that a record-beater? If so, I have some bad news... ;-)
? | 6 months ago
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Lol, laughing at the not bold part lol. You're right It doesn't deserve to be called a record-beater just got a little excited due to setting a new personal best thats all. I think I'll train some more and read material that I do not normally read (I tend to read mostly difficult technical stuff and shy away from literature) and see If I improve again in another few weeks or so.
moeman | 6 months ago
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"7, I think."
No. It's 8. Let me show you...
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B5IiAkbUhNwtNmMzMWU1NDgtMmFhMS00OGM0LWE3MjYtMjk0MGUyMThmZjM2&hl=en
With 100% correct, I typed a word a second, roughly.
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B5IiAkbUhNwtNmMzMWU1NDgtMmFhMS00OGM0LWE3MjYtMjk0MGUyMThmZjM2&hl=en
With 100% correct, I typed a word a second, roughly.
argumzio | 6 months ago
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Wow, nice. Although I'm not too surprised as you seem to exhibit a very high level of verbal ability in your posts.
Great job
I would attempt it again and try not to make any spelling errors but I don't feel like typing and don't want to induce any practice effects so I'll come back to it in another 2 weeks or so.
Great job
I would attempt it again and try not to make any spelling errors but I don't feel like typing and don't want to induce any practice effects so I'll come back to it in another 2 weeks or so.
moeman | 6 months ago
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[Not caring about how threads tend to derail themselves by taking up a third rail here and there like normal conversation, I'll answer.]
Where are you getting this "practice effects" for RST? Nowhere in the literature have I seen this mentioned, even though it is true that such effects can be seen for other ECTs (RST isn't an ECT), like the Flanker task and other skill-based tasks (e.g., arithmetic) which leads to lower g-loading through "practice".
While there may be sparse repetition in cogfun's RST, I don't see much in the way of practice effects emerging in the course of taking numerous sessions in succession. However, if this is your point (that sentences re-appear after a while), then I agree with you.
Where are you getting this "practice effects" for RST? Nowhere in the literature have I seen this mentioned, even though it is true that such effects can be seen for other ECTs (RST isn't an ECT), like the Flanker task and other skill-based tasks (e.g., arithmetic) which leads to lower g-loading through "practice".
While there may be sparse repetition in cogfun's RST, I don't see much in the way of practice effects emerging in the course of taking numerous sessions in succession. However, if this is your point (that sentences re-appear after a while), then I agree with you.
argumzio | 6 months ago
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Yeah you're right I just got a little paranoid because I have improved considerably the last two times I took the test. Looks like the training/hard work is starting to pay off.
moeman | 6 months ago
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I've found that I can alter the extent to which I'm consciously aware of what I have to type - typing without thinking/sub-vocalising may be trainable and may free up WM for memorisation (eg. for reciting the memorised words rather than subvocalising what one is typing). Finding the right strategy may matter.
cevapcici | 6 months ago
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lol. The task does not accept spelling errors so I usually check over what I typed very carefully (sometimes that doesn't even work).
moeman | 6 months ago
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vast | 6 months ago
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Thanks. It was frustrating as hell coming really close to beating 5 boxes but not quite doing it.
You're Cyberiad right? I've seen your PASAT times and man I wish I could crunch numbers that fast. I've beat PASAT 7 (standard) a few times but still am not satisfied with my speed.
You're Cyberiad right? I've seen your PASAT times and man I wish I could crunch numbers that fast. I've beat PASAT 7 (standard) a few times but still am not satisfied with my speed.
moeman | 6 months ago
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Yes, "I" am cyberiad. Hmmm, I'm not sure if anyone cares/has been paying attention but with the little I've posted on this forum... I've managed to create quite an eccentric persona
And all of it has been fabricated: deaf parents, sleep habits, excessive daydreaming/wanderings, boundless n-back sessions, emotional(lol)breakdowns, allergies. Lies. All of them. :-P
Again, dunno if anyone cares... but I've gotten kinda tired of the absurdity
Thanks!
And all of it has been fabricated: deaf parents, sleep habits, excessive daydreaming/wanderings, boundless n-back sessions, emotional(lol)breakdowns, allergies. Lies. All of them. :-P
Again, dunno if anyone cares... but I've gotten kinda tired of the absurdity
Thanks!
vast | 6 months ago
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Wait you had all these problems and they are gone because of n back? or u have these problems because of n back. ur comment was very confusing to me pls clarify if you will thanks.!
NBack4UrBraneZ | 6 months ago
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He very clearly said these characteristics were fabricated. In other words, they're lies created for his own amusement. Even if they did "go away" after training that wouldn't implicate training as the cause of their going away.
? | 6 months ago
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BrainMaster2 | 6 months ago
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Yea whats on your mind man.
BTW is topping out the differentiation span task a common occurrence? It's not a big deal as I did it by means of luck and a little intuition just curious as to whether its common or not that's all.
BTW is topping out the differentiation span task a common occurrence? It's not a big deal as I did it by means of luck and a little intuition just curious as to whether its common or not that's all.
moeman | 6 months ago
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BTW is topping out the differentiation span task a common occurrence?"
It's not particularly common, though at least a couple of people have managed it before.
cevapcici | 6 months ago
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? | 6 months ago
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Thanks i will continue...my n-back training...i try find something usefull from brain audios...so far i am lost with them..meaning that i have loads of them and i am not really shure if they are any good for increasing iq or not..
? | 6 months ago
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